La Taberna del Puerto

[Jotaguirre]

Amigos tomaros unas sidrinas y acomodaros que la cosa tiene coña....
He tenido el CHEQUE de la venta de mi HUNTER en el banco. Despues de celebrarlo por todo lo alto no ha pasado el periodo de garantia que da el servicio internacional de La Caixa. (Mas falso que un duro de trapo) Resulta que el pago se hizo desde inglaterra que como sabeis no es zona euro, así que tardan en confirmar unos quince dias. El "Timo" consiste en que a cuenta de que el que vendria a "recoger" el barco necesitaria unos euros de mas para el transporte etc me envian talon por 1500€ de mas con el fin de cubrir sus necesiades en España. Antes de hacerse cargo del barco y con el talon en mi banco en periodo de garantia (pero que ves clarito que el abono figura en tu cuenta) te piden que transfieras esos 1500 a una cuenta etc etc etc....y ahí es donde esta el timo si uno pica...luego ni barco a recoger ni leches que lo que querian ya se lo han llevado. Por lo visto es habitual en los coches de gama alta, pero ahora se ven algunas operaciones con los barcos....lo dicho AL LORO. pasta gansa en la mano y a capitania. El persegirlo no vale de ná pues la IP de los E.Mails que es lo unico que tengo, pertenece a un ciber del sur de las Englands..Yo me libre por los pelos y la pena es que perdi un mes de negociaciones...y mi pequeño HUNTER sigue a la venta. He bajado a 10500,00€ aver si alguien se anima....
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Buena mar y buena proa.... !!!!!

[konz]

¿Al final picaste?

[Charran]

Has tenido suerte...

En La Taberna ha salido en más de una ocasión el tema de ese "timo"...

Estoy convencido que si las policías se ponen de acuerdo,terminarían con los "timadores".

Suerte con la venta.

Saludos.
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Quienes no comprendan que el velero es un ser vivo jamás entenderán nada de la mar ni de los barcos.Bernard Moitesier.

[Jotaguirre]

No he picado, no....... pero de milagro. Les he puesto un último E-Mail con la consabida persecuion de su IP, que mi abogado etc etc ....y no han vuelto a contestar. Yo les decia que el Cheque era falso y no se podia cobrar etc..ya no les dí tiempo a que me pidieran la parte de "mas " para gastos que habian enviado...unos H....de P ..que se lo montan así de bien.... en fin !!!!
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Buena mar y buena proa.... !!!!!

[konz]

...pero desde luego, has hecho bien en exponer el caso para aviso de navegantes.

[santiago]

Estos disparan a todo lo que se mueve. Tengo un amigo que es pintor y tiene página web. Un día le llegó un correo diciéndole que le querían comprar uno de los cuadros y que le pagaban con un cheque de un cliente que tenían que cobrar. Como la cantidad era superior le pedían que les ingresase la diferencia en una cuenta. Mi amigo, un poco mosqueado, me lo comentó, con la suerte de que alguien había colgado lo de los timos en los barcos. También se salvó por los pelos.

[Jota]

Lo mismino me pasó a mi, tambien con un Hunter Europa.

http://www.latabernadelpuerto.com/foro/viewtopic.php?t=35342&highlight=timo+hunter
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Calma... que cada uno tiene sus cadaunadas...

[Polen]

Ufff, ya los hay cabropiiiiiiiiiii !! Está bien saber este tipo cosas para estar alerta
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Las chicas buenas van al cielo; las malas... a todas partes

http://carena.blogia.com

[estruc]

A mi me lo querian hace con un apartamento en la playa......un holandes con acento moro.....????
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[Elcar]

Por desgracia esta a la orden del día en la venta de: coches, casa,barcos..... ¡Cuidadin...cuidadin...!

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Buena proa

[PILOT]

Pufff!!!!


Menos mal paisano.!!!! hay que ver cuanto hay por el mundo...


Saludos


Pilot
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El mar dará a cada hombre una esperanza nueva. Lo mismo que el dormir le dará un nuevo sueño.... (Cristobal Colon.)

[scorpii7]

Por lo que ve el timo de la estampita"cheque" aun existe habra que llevar cuidadin, señores todo lo que no sea efectivo, no vale.






Saludos y unas birritas a los afortunados de salvarse
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Con la mujer y con la mar hay que saber navegar

[Charran]

En otro post se publicó ésto: Timo del nigeriano...

cuidado con la compra venta de barcos o cualquiervcosa por internet, hay una mafia que se dedica a la estafa por internet, te pagan por tu objeto mas valor del real pra gastosn y te mandan cheques del extranjero, cuando tu los ingresas en tu banco, tienes que darle el resto (descontado gastos) a otra persona; luego el cheque no tiene fondos.´
ver pagina de la guardia civil "www.guardiacivil.org/consejos/seguridad.jsp"
un saludo.

Saludos.
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Quienes no comprendan que el velero es un ser vivo jamás entenderán nada de la mar ni de los barcos.Bernard Moitesier.

[Charran]

Antes el enlace de la guardia civil no salía...

www.guardiacivil.org/consejos/seguridad.jsp

http://www.gdt.guardiacivil.es/
http://www.gdt.guardiacivil.es/cusuarios.php


Saludos.
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Quienes no comprendan que el velero es un ser vivo jamás entenderán nada de la mar ni de los barcos.Bernard Moitesier.

[Pirri]

Al final tenía razón mi abuela, "el dinero cuando se cobra se mete debajo de una losa" y si se paga, que sea en una bolsa de basura negra con los billetes dentro, añado yo. Claro, ante la mas minima posibilidad de fraude, billetes, que ese no tiene necesidad de 15 días. Esta el western union y muchas formas de pago en una hora. Lo demas timoteo.

Suerte con la venta

[Vientoceano]

Gracias por el aviso. Tengo un coche en venta en paginas web de España y esto es lo que me han mandado. Se les veia venir...

Hello,

Thanks for your prompt response to my inquiry on your advertisement. I have spoken with the interested party and finalized payment details with him.He has agreed to the price of 5,000€. He has agreed to make your payment via CERTIFIED CHECK which will get to you , made out in your favour for 8,500€. (inclusive of the mobilization fees for the agent contracted by my client to handle shipping/delivery for him). The same agent will take care of all formalities on my client's behalf.

Anyway, you are required to deduct the cost for your car which is 5,000€. when the check gets to you and send the balance of 3,300€. to the agent (this represents his fees, shipping and other sundry charges) for him to be able to offset general logistics, inspection and shipping charges, customs import duties and any applicable fees
charged at point of entry and exit. The extra 200€. is to offset the bank charges for charging the check and transfer charges for sending the agent's fees.

Once you receive your payment you will make arrangements to send the agent's logistics and service fees to him so that he can begin His pick up arrangements. Once you give the go ahead He will come for the pick up of the car and subsequent delivery to my client. My client's shipping agent will come to your location to see the car insitu and to take possession personally and sign the necessary contractual/ownership papers on my clients behalf. Details of how to send the agents fees will be given to you once you confirm that you have received your payment ok.

THE TOTAL AMOUNT ON THE CHECK WILL BE AS FOLLOWS:-

PAYMENT FOR THE CAR:------------------------------5,000€.

AGENT'S FEES/LOGISTICS/TAXES:----------------3,300€.

BANK CHARGES FOR CASHING THE CHECK:--------200€.

TOTAL:- 8,500€.

If this arrangement is ok by you confirm this and Kindly forward your details below so that your check will be made out in your favour:

(1) FULL NAMES (AS IT SHOULD BE WRITTEN ON THE CHECK SO THERE WILL BE NO ERRORS).

(2) POSTAL/MAILING ADDRESS OF WHERE THE CHECK SHOULD BE SENT TO( please be sure to also include the post code of your location so that the check will not be sent to the wrong address).

(3) PHONE /FAX NUMBER WHERE YOU CAN BE REACHED AT ALL TIMES.
So that as soon as your payment is sent you will be contacted and so that agent can/will also contact you enroute to your location. If you let me have this details immediately I will pass it across to my client and He will make out the check payment in your favour and it will be sent to you ASAP.

Regards,

J.Dance.


Y la cosa es que no se podrá hacer nada con ellos, solo airearlo para que la gente se entere y no caiga.
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La fascinación que se produce en el mar no tiene grandes porqués, cuando inicias la danza del viento te enganchas para toda la vida
M. B.

[Vientoceano]

Gracias por el aviso. Tengo un coche en venta en paginas web de España y esto es lo que me han mandado. Se les veia venir...

Hello,

Thanks for your prompt response to my inquiry on your advertisement. I have spoken with the interested party and finalized payment details with him.He has agreed to the price of 5,000€. He has agreed to make your payment via CERTIFIED CHECK which will get to you , made out in your favour for 8,500€. (inclusive of the mobilization fees for the agent contracted by my client to handle shipping/delivery for him). The same agent will take care of all formalities on my client's behalf.

Anyway, you are required to deduct the cost for your car which is 5,000€. when the check gets to you and send the balance of 3,300€. to the agent (this represents his fees, shipping and other sundry charges) for him to be able to offset general logistics, inspection and shipping charges, customs import duties and any applicable fees
charged at point of entry and exit. The extra 200€. is to offset the bank charges for charging the check and transfer charges for sending the agent's fees.

Once you receive your payment you will make arrangements to send the agent's logistics and service fees to him so that he can begin His pick up arrangements. Once you give the go ahead He will come for the pick up of the car and subsequent delivery to my client. My client's shipping agent will come to your location to see the car insitu and to take possession personally and sign the necessary contractual/ownership papers on my clients behalf. Details of how to send the agents fees will be given to you once you confirm that you have received your payment ok.

THE TOTAL AMOUNT ON THE CHECK WILL BE AS FOLLOWS:-

PAYMENT FOR THE CAR:------------------------------5,000€.

AGENT'S FEES/LOGISTICS/TAXES:----------------3,300€.

BANK CHARGES FOR CASHING THE CHECK:--------200€.

TOTAL:- 8,500€.

If this arrangement is ok by you confirm this and Kindly forward your details below so that your check will be made out in your favour:

(1) FULL NAMES (AS IT SHOULD BE WRITTEN ON THE CHECK SO THERE WILL BE NO ERRORS).

(2) POSTAL/MAILING ADDRESS OF WHERE THE CHECK SHOULD BE SENT TO( please be sure to also include the post code of your location so that the check will not be sent to the wrong address).

(3) PHONE /FAX NUMBER WHERE YOU CAN BE REACHED AT ALL TIMES.
So that as soon as your payment is sent you will be contacted and so that agent can/will also contact you enroute to your location. If you let me have this details immediately I will pass it across to my client and He will make out the check payment in your favour and it will be sent to you ASAP.

Regards,

J.Dance.


Y la cosa es que no se podrá hacer nada con ellos, solo airearlo para que la gente se entere y no caiga.
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La fascinación que se produce en el mar no tiene grandes porqués, cuando inicias la danza del viento te enganchas para toda la vida
M. B.

[Vientoceano]

Gracias por el aviso. Tengo un coche en venta en paginas web de España y esto es lo que me han mandado. Se les veia venir...

Hello,

Thanks for your prompt response to my inquiry on your advertisement. I have spoken with the interested party and finalized payment details with him.He has agreed to the price of 5,000€. He has agreed to make your payment via CERTIFIED CHECK which will get to you , made out in your favour for 8,500€. (inclusive of the mobilization fees for the agent contracted by my client to handle shipping/delivery for him). The same agent will take care of all formalities on my client's behalf.

Anyway, you are required to deduct the cost for your car which is 5,000€. when the check gets to you and send the balance of 3,300€. to the agent (this represents his fees, shipping and other sundry charges) for him to be able to offset general logistics, inspection and shipping charges, customs import duties and any applicable fees
charged at point of entry and exit. The extra 200€. is to offset the bank charges for charging the check and transfer charges for sending the agent's fees.

Once you receive your payment you will make arrangements to send the agent's logistics and service fees to him so that he can begin His pick up arrangements. Once you give the go ahead He will come for the pick up of the car and subsequent delivery to my client. My client's shipping agent will come to your location to see the car insitu and to take possession personally and sign the necessary contractual/ownership papers on my clients behalf. Details of how to send the agents fees will be given to you once you confirm that you have received your payment ok.

THE TOTAL AMOUNT ON THE CHECK WILL BE AS FOLLOWS:-

PAYMENT FOR THE CAR:------------------------------5,000€.

AGENT'S FEES/LOGISTICS/TAXES:----------------3,300€.

BANK CHARGES FOR CASHING THE CHECK:--------200€.

TOTAL:- 8,500€.

If this arrangement is ok by you confirm this and Kindly forward your details below so that your check will be made out in your favour:

(1) FULL NAMES (AS IT SHOULD BE WRITTEN ON THE CHECK SO THERE WILL BE NO ERRORS).

(2) POSTAL/MAILING ADDRESS OF WHERE THE CHECK SHOULD BE SENT TO( please be sure to also include the post code of your location so that the check will not be sent to the wrong address).

(3) PHONE /FAX NUMBER WHERE YOU CAN BE REACHED AT ALL TIMES.
So that as soon as your payment is sent you will be contacted and so that agent can/will also contact you enroute to your location. If you let me have this details immediately I will pass it across to my client and He will make out the check payment in your favour and it will be sent to you ASAP.

Regards,

J.Dance.


Y la cosa es que no se podrá hacer nada con ellos, solo airearlo para que la gente se entere y no caiga.
_________________
La fascinación que se produce en el mar no tiene grandes porqués, cuando inicias la danza del viento te enganchas para toda la vida
M. B.

[Vientoceano]

Gracias por el aviso. Tengo un coche en venta en paginas web de España y esto es lo que me han mandado. Se les veia venir...

Hello,

Thanks for your prompt response to my inquiry on your advertisement. I have spoken with the interested party and finalized payment details with him.He has agreed to the price of 5,000€. He has agreed to make your payment via CERTIFIED CHECK which will get to you , made out in your favour for 8,500€. (inclusive of the mobilization fees for the agent contracted by my client to handle shipping/delivery for him). The same agent will take care of all formalities on my client's behalf.

Anyway, you are required to deduct the cost for your car which is 5,000€. when the check gets to you and send the balance of 3,300€. to the agent (this represents his fees, shipping and other sundry charges) for him to be able to offset general logistics, inspection and shipping charges, customs import duties and any applicable fees
charged at point of entry and exit. The extra 200€. is to offset the bank charges for charging the check and transfer charges for sending the agent's fees.

Once you receive your payment you will make arrangements to send the agent's logistics and service fees to him so that he can begin His pick up arrangements. Once you give the go ahead He will come for the pick up of the car and subsequent delivery to my client. My client's shipping agent will come to your location to see the car insitu and to take possession personally and sign the necessary contractual/ownership papers on my clients behalf. Details of how to send the agents fees will be given to you once you confirm that you have received your payment ok.

THE TOTAL AMOUNT ON THE CHECK WILL BE AS FOLLOWS:-

PAYMENT FOR THE CAR:------------------------------5,000€.

AGENT'S FEES/LOGISTICS/TAXES:----------------3,300€.

BANK CHARGES FOR CASHING THE CHECK:--------200€.

TOTAL:- 8,500€.

If this arrangement is ok by you confirm this and Kindly forward your details below so that your check will be made out in your favour:

(1) FULL NAMES (AS IT SHOULD BE WRITTEN ON THE CHECK SO THERE WILL BE NO ERRORS).

(2) POSTAL/MAILING ADDRESS OF WHERE THE CHECK SHOULD BE SENT TO( please be sure to also include the post code of your location so that the check will not be sent to the wrong address).

(3) PHONE /FAX NUMBER WHERE YOU CAN BE REACHED AT ALL TIMES.
So that as soon as your payment is sent you will be contacted and so that agent can/will also contact you enroute to your location. If you let me have this details immediately I will pass it across to my client and He will make out the check payment in your favour and it will be sent to you ASAP.

Regards,

J.Dance.


Y la cosa es que no se podrá hacer nada con ellos, solo airearlo para que la gente se entere y no caiga.
_________________
La fascinación que se produce en el mar no tiene grandes porqués, cuando inicias la danza del viento te enganchas para toda la vida
M. B.